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	<title>Comments on: Friday&#8217;s Off-Ramp:  Laurel Street Etiquette.</title>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2009/06/12/fridays-off-ramp-laurel-street-etiquette/#comment-6572</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 21:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, I think these two intersections need to remain 2 way stops otherwise we will surely have gridlock downtown if we have to stop at every corner. AMEN to those U-turn parkers as well; I have yet to see someone get a ticket for that...talk about dangerous!  They should be shot (well symbolically). It&#039;s also unfair to those approaching that spot legally that would park there.

As far as pedestrians at these two intersections go, it is nice that drivers like to stop for people standing on the corner waiting to cross. However, when I am waiting to cross, I am &quot;waiting my turn to cross&quot;. 

Didn&#039;t Mom and Dad always tell you to stand on the corner, wait until it is clear, then cross? It is almost maddening when I am standing there, in no way motioning that I need to cross the street at that moment, and someone decides they are going to stop for me, thus creating a potential rearend collision for them.

Note to drivers, yield the right of way when you must yield, otherwise accept your right of way when approaching these intersections and proceed through. It&#039;s not a crime to actually drive through an intersection that is not marked with a stop or yield sign (unless of course a pedestrian is crossing).

By the same token, those pedestrians that barely break stride when approaching corners, whether 4-way stop or not, PLEASE STOP and wait for traffic to notice you, then take your turn.

And those with children, pleaase move them through the intersection WITH YOU safely. How many times have you seen children treating these intersections as playgrounds while Mom and/or Dad sips their coffee while talking on the phone? Not the best way to teach safety to your children...

As they say, you are in the right when in a crosswalk at an intersection, but do you really want to be &quot;dead right&quot;?

I think if everyone acknowledges both pedestrians&#039; as well as drivers&#039; right of way in downtown, there would be less rage and we would ALL be much safer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, I think these two intersections need to remain 2 way stops otherwise we will surely have gridlock downtown if we have to stop at every corner. AMEN to those U-turn parkers as well; I have yet to see someone get a ticket for that&#8230;talk about dangerous!  They should be shot (well symbolically). It&#8217;s also unfair to those approaching that spot legally that would park there.</p>
<p>As far as pedestrians at these two intersections go, it is nice that drivers like to stop for people standing on the corner waiting to cross. However, when I am waiting to cross, I am &#8220;waiting my turn to cross&#8221;. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Mom and Dad always tell you to stand on the corner, wait until it is clear, then cross? It is almost maddening when I am standing there, in no way motioning that I need to cross the street at that moment, and someone decides they are going to stop for me, thus creating a potential rearend collision for them.</p>
<p>Note to drivers, yield the right of way when you must yield, otherwise accept your right of way when approaching these intersections and proceed through. It&#8217;s not a crime to actually drive through an intersection that is not marked with a stop or yield sign (unless of course a pedestrian is crossing).</p>
<p>By the same token, those pedestrians that barely break stride when approaching corners, whether 4-way stop or not, PLEASE STOP and wait for traffic to notice you, then take your turn.</p>
<p>And those with children, pleaase move them through the intersection WITH YOU safely. How many times have you seen children treating these intersections as playgrounds while Mom and/or Dad sips their coffee while talking on the phone? Not the best way to teach safety to your children&#8230;</p>
<p>As they say, you are in the right when in a crosswalk at an intersection, but do you really want to be &#8220;dead right&#8221;?</p>
<p>I think if everyone acknowledges both pedestrians&#8217; as well as drivers&#8217; right of way in downtown, there would be less rage and we would ALL be much safer.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

Good points.  Backing out of those diagonal spots is definitely an art form -- inch by inch.  I absolutely sympathize with our older residents who try to drive down Laurel today -- it must be really difficult with so much going on.

One easy solution to avoid many of these near-misses would to make the Olive/Laurel and Cherry/Laurel intersections 4-way stops.   This would eliminate 99% of the confusion, and would make it much safer for pedestrians trying to cross at these corners.

Thanks for your comments.

Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>Good points.  Backing out of those diagonal spots is definitely an art form &#8212; inch by inch.  I absolutely sympathize with our older residents who try to drive down Laurel today &#8212; it must be really difficult with so much going on.</p>
<p>One easy solution to avoid many of these near-misses would to make the Olive/Laurel and Cherry/Laurel intersections 4-way stops.   This would eliminate 99% of the confusion, and would make it much safer for pedestrians trying to cross at these corners.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 02:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post.  Here are my additions/gripes about Laurel:  1) the oversize ground-level plant pots around the crosswalks actually make for a more  dangerous situation, impairing the visibility of crossing pedestrians to drivers; 2) older drivers who back out of the diagonal spaces without looking behind them, hoping the other drivers will stop in time.  Although I admit, backing out when you&#039;re parked next to a big SUV is a roll of the dice...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post.  Here are my additions/gripes about Laurel:  1) the oversize ground-level plant pots around the crosswalks actually make for a more  dangerous situation, impairing the visibility of crossing pedestrians to drivers; 2) older drivers who back out of the diagonal spaces without looking behind them, hoping the other drivers will stop in time.  Although I admit, backing out when you&#8217;re parked next to a big SUV is a roll of the dice&#8230;</p>
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