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	<title>Comments on: Cal Fire Submits Initial Proposal for San Carlos Fire Contract.</title>
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	<description>If it happens in San Carlos, it&#039;s in here...</description>
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		<title>By: Employee to the people</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-27766</link>
		<dc:creator>Employee to the people</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello I am reading the articles and the comments.  In a way it is sad to know that the people of this great state really dont see the professionalism and dedication the Cal Fire employees give.  On last evaluation of parity pay for Cal Fire employees to Local Government employees, the Cal Fire employee was 53-56% less than Local Government employees.  The Cal Fire mission is &quot;ALL RISK&quot; statewide.  Therefore, the level of training is equal or exceeding that of other departments.  
There is no wedge in who can do the job better,  when an individual decides to take the path of self sacrifice and dedication to help others.  
If you are not involved with this type of life style you could not be expected to understand what these people put themselves and family through.  They are the homeland soldiers and will step up to any community and be there for them.  
I understand that there is concern to the &quot;CHANGE&quot;, that could happen, but from first hand knowledge, no community could even notice a change.
Cal Fire is the State Fire Marshal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello I am reading the articles and the comments.  In a way it is sad to know that the people of this great state really dont see the professionalism and dedication the Cal Fire employees give.  On last evaluation of parity pay for Cal Fire employees to Local Government employees, the Cal Fire employee was 53-56% less than Local Government employees.  The Cal Fire mission is &#8220;ALL RISK&#8221; statewide.  Therefore, the level of training is equal or exceeding that of other departments.<br />
There is no wedge in who can do the job better,  when an individual decides to take the path of self sacrifice and dedication to help others.<br />
If you are not involved with this type of life style you could not be expected to understand what these people put themselves and family through.  They are the homeland soldiers and will step up to any community and be there for them.<br />
I understand that there is concern to the &#8220;CHANGE&#8221;, that could happen, but from first hand knowledge, no community could even notice a change.<br />
Cal Fire is the State Fire Marshal.</p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-22613</link>
		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 00:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No raise in Cal Fire fee in riverside county?

What is this?

http://www.pe.com/localnews/politics/stories/PE_News_Local_W_calfire12.45a2e8e.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No raise in Cal Fire fee in riverside county?</p>
<p>What is this?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.pe.com/localnews/politics/stories/PE_News_Local_W_calfire12.45a2e8e.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.pe.com/localnews/politics/stories/PE_News_Local_W_calfire12.45a2e8e.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: JAG</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-22563</link>
		<dc:creator>JAG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 19:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First off, Riverside County is increasing their fee for the contracts they have for the Sherriffs Office by 5 or 6%.  But there is no mention of that anywhere.  Also, there has been a long time black balling of CAL FIRE in San Mateo County for years.  Some of it may have to do when in the 70&#039;s, the Governor ordered CAL FIRE (CDF back then) to staff San Mateo City stations when the FD went on strike.  Not CAL FIRE&#039;s fault for following orders.  Riverside County has tried to threaten to start their own FD anytime they don&#039;t like something CAL FIRE might do.  They did the same when they were going to move the Air Attack Base.  As for starting their own department, have at it.  Ask San Bernardino County how well that went or may be Orange County who filled bankruptcy.  As for Half Moon Bay, the whole problem is with two board members.  One is a Local 2400 member &amp; the other is a disgruntle Half Moon Bay ex-Firefighter.  The funny thing about this is CAL FIRE doesn&#039;t need more contracts.  Nor does CAL FIRE go looking for contracts.  They are asked by the City, County or Fire District.  But it always comes down to attacking the employees.  The reason alot of the Fire Departments are in this situation is that they price themselves out of business.  Would a CAL FIRE employee like to make over $100K without working any overtime &amp; only working 10 days a month?  That&#039;s pretty obvious!  So if someone makes less money for doing the same work, does that make them less of an employee?  It all boils down to other departments in San Mateo County are scared that CAL FIRE might be sceen as a option to their fire service which would be a threat to their high pay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First off, Riverside County is increasing their fee for the contracts they have for the Sherriffs Office by 5 or 6%.  But there is no mention of that anywhere.  Also, there has been a long time black balling of CAL FIRE in San Mateo County for years.  Some of it may have to do when in the 70&#8242;s, the Governor ordered CAL FIRE (CDF back then) to staff San Mateo City stations when the FD went on strike.  Not CAL FIRE&#8217;s fault for following orders.  Riverside County has tried to threaten to start their own FD anytime they don&#8217;t like something CAL FIRE might do.  They did the same when they were going to move the Air Attack Base.  As for starting their own department, have at it.  Ask San Bernardino County how well that went or may be Orange County who filled bankruptcy.  As for Half Moon Bay, the whole problem is with two board members.  One is a Local 2400 member &amp; the other is a disgruntle Half Moon Bay ex-Firefighter.  The funny thing about this is CAL FIRE doesn&#8217;t need more contracts.  Nor does CAL FIRE go looking for contracts.  They are asked by the City, County or Fire District.  But it always comes down to attacking the employees.  The reason alot of the Fire Departments are in this situation is that they price themselves out of business.  Would a CAL FIRE employee like to make over $100K without working any overtime &amp; only working 10 days a month?  That&#8217;s pretty obvious!  So if someone makes less money for doing the same work, does that make them less of an employee?  It all boils down to other departments in San Mateo County are scared that CAL FIRE might be sceen as a option to their fire service which would be a threat to their high pay.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Gillooley</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-21910</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Gillooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 14:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a good point.  

While I&#039;m grateful to those who take the time to comment on the site, it would be nice if you could remember to create and use a consistent username so that others at least know which user is making a particular point.  You don&#039;t need to put in an email address, so there are no worries about retaining your anonymity.  It&#039;s getting confusing in some of these forums when there are 3-4 &quot;anonymous&quot; commenters on the same topic.   Thanks....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good point.  </p>
<p>While I&#8217;m grateful to those who take the time to comment on the site, it would be nice if you could remember to create and use a consistent username so that others at least know which user is making a particular point.  You don&#8217;t need to put in an email address, so there are no worries about retaining your anonymity.  It&#8217;s getting confusing in some of these forums when there are 3-4 &#8220;anonymous&#8221; commenters on the same topic.   Thanks&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: FD Neighbor</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-21709</link>
		<dc:creator>FD Neighbor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 20:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riverside County is looking into starting their own fire department since Calfire is raising their administrative fees an additional 2 million dollars in July (14 million in administrative fees for 2010).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riverside County is looking into starting their own fire department since Calfire is raising their administrative fees an additional 2 million dollars in July (14 million in administrative fees for 2010).</p>
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		<title>By: Pat B</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-21689</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chuck, is there any way to keep these &quot;anons&quot; straight?  You can see their emails but all we see is anon.  Just Anon 1, etc. would be fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck, is there any way to keep these &#8220;anons&#8221; straight?  You can see their emails but all we see is anon.  Just Anon 1, etc. would be fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat B</title>
		<link>http://www.whiteoaksblog.com/2010/03/11/cal-fire-submits-initial-proposal-for-san-carlos-fire-contract/#comment-21688</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 04:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you&#039;re happy with Cal Fire.  We&#039;re happy with our Fire Department and want to keep it.  Our firefighters do not want to work for Cal Fire and the firefighters in Half Moon Bay, who are now working for Cal Fire, don&#039;t like it.  

If Riverside County doesn&#039;t take the advice of its Grand Jury, there&#039;s something wrong there, but that&#039;s not my problem.  I won&#039;t tell you how to run your city if you&#039;ll do me the same favor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re happy with Cal Fire.  We&#8217;re happy with our Fire Department and want to keep it.  Our firefighters do not want to work for Cal Fire and the firefighters in Half Moon Bay, who are now working for Cal Fire, don&#8217;t like it.  </p>
<p>If Riverside County doesn&#8217;t take the advice of its Grand Jury, there&#8217;s something wrong there, but that&#8217;s not my problem.  I won&#8217;t tell you how to run your city if you&#8217;ll do me the same favor.</p>
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